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[Feb. 20th, 2012|11:32 am]
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It's hard to cheer when a newspaper closes. Even one you're slightly scared of, like the Daily Mail. Even though the Mail isn't technically a newspaper, more a serialised Necronomicon. In fact it's not even printed, but scorched on to parchment by a whispering cacodemon. The Mail can never close. It can only choose to vacate our realm and return to the dominion in which it was forged; a place somewhere between shadow and dusk, beyond time and space, at the dark, howling apex of infinity. London W8 5TT.

The ever quotable Charlie Brooker.
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[User Picture]From: caddyman
2012-02-20 11:40 am (UTC)

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Is it me, or does W8 5TT lookk like some kind of qabbalistic L33t?
[User Picture]From: ruana1
2012-02-20 11:46 am (UTC)

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Ah, Charlie... quotable indeed.
[User Picture]From: mr_h_r_hughes
2012-02-20 11:54 am (UTC)

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It's a shame that The Mail has become so emblematic that it takes all the flak, The Express is often even worse.
[User Picture]From: jfs
2012-02-20 11:57 am (UTC)

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But that is basically saying that Satan is often even worse than Beelzebub.

(And I'm wildly amused that autocorrect on my phone knows how to spell Beelzebub.)
[User Picture]From: mr_h_r_hughes
2012-02-20 12:02 pm (UTC)

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You've not been buying phones from that shop on the crossroads again ?

Well lets not have the Beelzebub vs Satan debate again, I just like to remind people that the Express is a steaming pile of nazi dung too, The Mail isn't the only crapbag in town !
[User Picture]From: jfs
2012-02-20 12:30 pm (UTC)

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Fair point. Well made.
[User Picture]From: rosamicula
2012-02-20 12:41 pm (UTC)

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For professional reasons, I bought the Mail on Sunday. lead story is a fairly non-judgemental story about a pregnant man who used to be a woman. This chap actually sold his story to the Mail, oddly.

Also there's an article by Peter Tatchell, about Whitney Houston, describing the time he met her and her female partner, and how she was bullied by the record company and her church into abandoning that relationship and thence drifted very quickly into a marriage with Bobby Brown, with a very polemical emphasis about the deleterious effects on mental health when one is forced to deny one's sexuality.

I don't know if the MoS has changed a lot recently or if it usually strikes a more liberal note than its sister paper, but I was quite surprised.
[User Picture]From: valkyriekaren
2012-02-20 01:34 pm (UTC)

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Considering what one of their columnists said the other week about that, I'm doubly surprised.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2100764/Thomas-Beatie-baby-Im-liberal--man-giving-birth-freakish-pale.html
[User Picture]From: rosamicula
2012-02-20 01:53 pm (UTC)

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The article in the MoS, which protects the identity of the English bloke who has just had a baby, is quite scathing about the American bloke mentioned in that article. I am quite intrigued by this, actually, as I wonder if there is a bit of a difference of emphasis between the MoS and the DM.

I am quite intrigued by this actually. Looking at the ads, which are very much still pitched at the retired or those approaching retirement, I wonder if the more liberal stance (in some areas) is a deliberate ploy to appeal to younger readers.

The Mail generally is perceived rather differently outside the lefty, liberal corner of the UK. It is the most widely read paper amongst minority ethnic women, for instance, who will laud it for its campaigning over the Stephen Lawrence case.

I haven't read your link btw, because I never click on links to the Mail, Fox, Guardian or other news organisations whose traffic and income don't want to increase. The Mail has the largest online traffic of any English language news website, largely I suspect because of how much its incenses its detractor too busy having a completely futile outragewank to acknowledege they are increasing its profile and profits by linking.

I also make this very clear to my pupils when we are doing media analysis work (the reason I bought all the papers this weekend). It's fascinating seeing their response to this, and their shock when they realise The Sun and The Times are owned by the same person.
[User Picture]From: valkyriekaren
2012-02-20 03:14 pm (UTC)

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Fair enough. I can precis the article as "Trans people are freaks! Men aren't women and women aren't men and anything else is just confusing and frightening to me, and anyway WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!!" It also has a pop at Elton John for reasons I can't quite fathom.

[User Picture]From: mr_h_r_hughes
2012-02-21 07:54 am (UTC)

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He hasn't made a decent tune for 30+ years, seems like resaon enough to me.
[User Picture]From: jfs
2012-02-20 10:34 pm (UTC)

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That's good to hear.

I was amused that the Daily Mail ran a 'there's a correlation between being Right Wing and of low intelligence' story recently, but I figure they'd realised that if loony left stories got them a lot of clickbait, the occasional loony right story would too.
[User Picture]From: november_girl
2012-02-20 01:24 pm (UTC)

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Is the Daily Fail closing then, or is it my wishful thinking when reading your post?
[User Picture]From: jfs
2012-02-20 01:40 pm (UTC)

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Wishful thinking. Brooker's article is about the launch of the Sun on Sunday.
[User Picture]From: rosamicula
2012-02-20 01:55 pm (UTC)

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I think, alas, that Charlie Brooker has gone the way of Jo Brand and other folks who used to be funny/edgy and just slipped into shouty self-parody. Too march bark diminishes the bite.
[User Picture]From: jfs
2012-02-20 10:33 pm (UTC)

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I think he's very much a parson's egg - I really wasn't a big fan of his 'TV Go Home' stuff, and I never watched 'Nathan Barley'. But I really liked 'Dead Set', and 2 of the 3 'Black Mirror' episodes.

As a columnist, I think he's a good writer, but lazy - his columns would often benefit from more rigorous editing to tighten them up. But he does have a lovely turn of phrase.